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TO UPGRADE OR TO NOT UPGRADE THAT IS THE QUESTION?

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by INFECTION, 17 Feb 2006.

  1. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    hey guys at the moment i have a

    P4 478 3.0ghz
    80gb hardrive
    1gb of ram
    128mb 9800 graphics card
    intel pearl mother board
    and a galexy buble case lit nicly in blue
    also very loud :(


    should i upgrade what i have at the moment by putting in

    MY-004-OK OcUK Value 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 184pin DDR Memory Dual Channel Kit (MY-004-OK)
    £44.95 £44.95
    GX-058-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X850 XT 256MB DDR3 VIVO TV-Out/DVI (AGP) - Retail (GX-058-PC)
    £179.95 £179.95
    HD-046-WD Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 2500KS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-046-WD)
    £64.25 £64.25
    CA-006-HP Hiper HPU-4B580 Type R 580W Modular ATX2.2 PSU - Blue (CA-006-HP)
    £54.95 £54.95
    Subtotal £344.10
    VAT £60.22
    Total £404.32


    or do a complete over haul and start from scratch and spend the extra £300 on an amd system ?
    please let me know what you think i do have a speck of my own for what i would like to do if you want to see that let me know thanks

    INFECTION
     
  2. Zefan

    Don

    Joined: 15 Jan 2006

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    Location: Tosche Station

    If you try you can stick a whole new rig for £650, that's including a 7800gt. I'd wait out and go PCI-E. That was about 4 weeks ago now too so you'll probably be able to get it around £550. I'd definitely go for a whole system overhaul. How long does it need to last?
     
  3. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    right i followed non of that probs coz am tired but yeh could you do me a spec ?
    and post it to me if u have the time ?

    thanks
     
  4. Zefan

    Don

    Joined: 15 Jan 2006

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    will do at some point, not now however cuz I'm just as tired as you :D. Tomorrow if I get a chance.

    :Edit: Sleep doesn't seem to be working atm and I can't find the exe to run it so I figured I'd do this now.

    AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 90nm (Socket 939) - OEM
    £89.95

    Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 2500KS SATA-II 16MB
    £64.25

    Hiper HPU-4B580 Type R 580W Modular ATX2.2 PSU - Blue
    £54.95

    OcUK GeForce 7800GT 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
    £183.95

    DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard
    £84.95
    OcUK Value 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 184pin DDR Memory Dual Channel Kit
    £44.95
    Subtotal £523.00
    VAT £91.53
    Total £614.53

    So for £214 more you have a killer motherboard, a 3000+ to oc in it and a 7800gt.
     
    Last edited: 17 Feb 2006
  5. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    hmmmm seems very good :) but never overclocked but mainly play games on it my comps well bf2 :) hmmm i got my case blue at mo i think am gonna get a new case too and do the inside green and uv what u think ?
     
  6. Zefan

    Don

    Joined: 15 Jan 2006

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    Location: Tosche Station

    I have recently (Today) swapped out my stuff and Watercoolin' into a 3D aurora. VERY nice case, although for anything but w/c it's probably a waste of money. Nice and blue. Green is good too, had my last loop green but didn't go with case :(. Can't really think of a particularly green case :\. You could always custom job it bright lime green :D
     
  7. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    no my case is black it just has 2 blue bubble cathods going down the front of the case (external) and 3 blue led fans (internal) but i think a different black case would look good with a green interior Ie lights also with a uv cathode and was thinking alont the lines of this psu

    CA-002-UX Ultra X-Connect 500W ATX2.0 Cable Detachable PSU - Black with UV Green (CA-002-UX)
    £54.95 £54.95
    Subtotal £54.95
    VAT £9.62
    Total £64.57

    let me know if you know anything about these psu's

    btw whats watercooling like ? is it reliable hard to fit coz i wouldnt mind doing that :)
     
  8. Zefan

    Don

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    Don't have a clue about those PSU's, but watercooling certainly isn't for the faint hearted. Admittedly it's taken alot longer than it should have but me and Chris1712 just spent the past 30 hours on my PC and waterloop taking it out, flushing it, refilling it and making sure no leaks were present. This was the first refill however, so the next will be alot quicker. Overall however water has been great, not only due to the HUGE novelty factor but the near silence it's brought to my rig. If you're going water I strongly recommend the Swiftech kit in the clearance section for <£100 IIRC. I think it even comes with green coolant :D
     
  9. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    ooooo thats kool but 30 hours wow mind you i dont do alot with my time lol i spend most of the time on here or in leeds getting incredably drunk with my m8s and rockin out lol but hmmmm sounds good though i think i may check it out wish there was someone that who i knew round here that was a fellow ocuker to give me a hand with all this stuff too find it hard doing all this on my own makes me nervous like am gonna bugger up :( but i think am gonna go with the amd system what do u think to duel core ?
     
  10. Zefan

    Don

    Joined: 15 Jan 2006

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    Dual core, well it depends what you're going to be doing :\. Some games claim to have proper support for it but tbh I doubt we'll see any proper utilisation of both cores until the get the second revision of the chips - in reaction to software development.

    If you do alot of things at the same time like recording two TV channels, downloading through torrent, running virus scans and playing video then it'll probably make quite a nice difference.

    Games however are likely to go more or less unaffected until the second revision under AM2 or whatever comes after it.
     
  11. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    ahhhhh ok so to do this new system all i really need to do is get rid of my old system but who the hell is gonna wonna buy this off me :(
     
  12. Zefan

    Don

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    Try the well known auction site and stick a respectable reserve on it.
     
  13. INFECTION

    Hitman

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    Location: Leeds

    how much would you say to put a suitable reserve on it ?
     
  14. Zefan

    Don

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    God knows. Have a look for what that sort of thing is selling for, then work out how much you need to get for it to finance the new rig. Try to set the reserve just a little lower than the selling price some go for. That way, it may take you 5 or 6 times to sell @ a few pence each time but you'll get a better price for it in the end.
     
  15. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

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    Location: Leeds

    been looking seems like ad be getting around £200 maybe but thats with a a standard case so maybe i could get £300 maybe i should just upgrade the bits that are i there and do a full overhaul later
     
  16. Zefan

    Don

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    Simply depends how urgently you need it.
     
  17. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

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    Location: Leeds

    would like it fairly soon rly coz i need to get up to the £700 mark for the new comp so i dunno maybe i should just go new case psu ram hard drive and g card ?????? what u think?????
     
  18. Zefan

    Don

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    If £700 is not feasible soon then I'd probably spend less on the HDD and graphics but stil go PCI-E and AMD64. An x850xt can be had here for ~£150, a cheaper mobo might do (You could always buy the AsRock AGP AND PCI-E motherboard, but ask someone else about that), and you could spend less on the HDD. This would mean you have spent only about £500, yet have stepped into performance territory. With the ASRock agp+pci-e mobo you could even use your existing 9800pro until you have enough for a really decent card.
     
  19. INFECTION

    Hitman

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 527

    Location: Leeds

    hmmmmmm good idea will let u know on my final desicion