Top 5 hot hatches of all time?
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Darkside/Lopez why specify the LHD golf mk1?
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mines a bit biased but i like them all
1. mk1 golf gti
2. mk2 golf g60
3. astra gte 16v
4. 205 1.6 gti
5. polo g40
1. mk1 golf gti
2. mk2 golf g60
3. astra gte 16v
4. 205 1.6 gti
5. polo g40
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Mr_Sukebe said:
I*think* I remember hearing that the braking setup on the RHD versions was woeful due to the system needed to actuate the master cylinder. It was essentially on the other side of the car to the pedal and in the engine bay, you lost a lot of feel.
I may be imagining that, though.
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because the car was first and foremost designed to be in LHD format with RHD versions an afterthought....after all the RHD market for a car like that isn't exactly large.converting to RHD involved a lot of linkage to the master cylinder etc that remained on the n/s of the car and every joint on each piece of linkage of course had some "play" in it.add them all up and the pedal felt like it was connected to a blancmange.Mad old tory said:
they never really got it (the brakes) right with the mk1 IMHO and it really spoiled the car.
as much as it annoys me, the LHD is definitely the better version.
easy tiger, only messing with you.Shootist said:
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Which is why the Lancia Delta Integrale is left hand drive only aswell. 
Should we add the R5GTT to the LHD is best option.
I read that the 2nd generation GTT ended up with the fuel line going somewhere near the turbo due to the RHD conversion, sometimes resulting in fuel vapourisation at high speeds. Nothing like getting engine cut out at an indicated 130mph.
I read that the 2nd generation GTT ended up with the fuel line going somewhere near the turbo due to the RHD conversion, sometimes resulting in fuel vapourisation at high speeds. Nothing like getting engine cut out at an indicated 130mph.
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the Golf wasn't LHD only thoughmalc30 said:Which is why the Lancia Delta Integrale is left hand drive only aswell.
.anyhoo i personally don't think that's the reason.more to do with the car being a homologation special and they knew they'd sell them all on the continent thus avoiding spending the HUGE costs involved to convert to RHD.
look at the Fiat Barchetta, they knew the market her for such a car was small so decided not to bother (read waste) the money developing RHD even though it's a great little car.
as for the Integrale i just don't see the attraction.it's an attractively aggresive car and it's a good performer on the road...but i'd take an Escort Cosworth over one every time.i drove an Integrale on a gravel stage and hated it.it's not easy to drive hard, i felt every stone on the damn road and i finished on one cylinder less than i'd started with.
i believe that a car should be relatively easy to drive whereas with the ntegrale driving it hard is actually hard work and as far as i'm concerned that means not pleasureable.
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there's a nice design fault on the Escort RST.Mr_Sukebe said:
an ECU trigger wire runs really close to the turbo heatshield.over time the engine vibrations make the shield chafe away at the wire until one day you're driving along and metal heatshield touches metal wire, the ECU hiccups and the car stops dead.of course as soon as the engine stops running the metal to metal contact also ceases allowing the engine to start again for a random period of time until it happens again.
i've known garages charge owners lots of money to fix this problem when in reality all they do is re-route the wire in question.
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1, Golf MKII G60 Limited
2, Golf MK1
3, Pug 205 1.9
4, Astra MKII GTE 16V
5, cant think of one here
2, Golf MK1
3, Pug 205 1.9
4, Astra MKII GTE 16V
5, cant think of one here
1220kg, unless it’s the rare Dakar version. Yes, light for a 4WD rally type, but we’re talking hot hatches, and relative to my ideal for a hot hatch. Having owned both GTi-R and Sunny GTi, the extra 120kg of the R makes a significant difference, making it feel more like a mid-weight car, which is getting away a smidge from the nippy, effortlessly chuckable handling, which for me defines a hot hatch. Just my preferenceStonedofmoo said:
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1. Lancia Delta Integrale - Can't see how people can say bad comments about this car, one of the fastest point to point cars ever, Extremely quick round corners, great aggressive lines. Would show an Escort Cossie a thing or two down a back road as well as 95% of other cars.
2. Peugeot 306 GTI-6/Rallye/S16 - Excellent cars, been out in a few GTI-6's and an S16 and they are excellent!
3. Peugeot 205 GTI
4. Renault Clip 172/182
5. Pulsar GTI-R
2. Peugeot 306 GTI-6/Rallye/S16 - Excellent cars, been out in a few GTI-6's and an S16 and they are excellent!
3. Peugeot 205 GTI
4. Renault Clip 172/182
5. Pulsar GTI-R
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Firestar_3x said:
saxo vts!
no way 306 gti6 should be on there and that removed!
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1 - Golf GTI mk 1
2 - Golf GTI 16v mk2 (I had one of these, great car)
3 - Peugeot 205 gti 1.9
4 - Astra GTE 16V (notorious in its day for being the twocers car of choice)
5 - Renault Clio 172/182
2 - Golf GTI 16v mk2 (I had one of these, great car)
3 - Peugeot 205 gti 1.9
4 - Astra GTE 16V (notorious in its day for being the twocers car of choice)
5 - Renault Clio 172/182
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I'm a bit suprised that the VTS is there and not the 106 GTi. It's generally considered to be "better" despite being near enough identical. The 106 has different suspension setup and also some differing components. (Lets not start an argument though, some people just won't believe this so it's pointless).
Only reason I can think is the price thing, but then 106 GTi's aren't exactly expensive. And when new they were pretty much the same weren't they?
Only reason I can think is the price thing, but then 106 GTi's aren't exactly expensive. And when new they were pretty much the same weren't they?
