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Tower block fire - london

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by robfosters, 14 Jun 2017.

  1. ColdAsIce

    Soldato

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    Location: Edinburgh

    Man that safety device is terrible. Did you see the problems the 3 of them had getting down?
     
  2. DavidMarq

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Stevenage

    I agree with the above. The regs are as they are partially because of a previous history of failed prosecutions with respect to higher management and corporates. CDM has really shaken up the construction industry for the better. I am not cynical I am just realistic about the far reaching scope of the Regs. This is what makes them effective.
     
  3. LOAM

    Capodecina

    Joined: 20 Oct 2004

    Posts: 12,541

    Location: Nottingham

    Sky are saying Fire Fighters got to the 18th - 20th Floor and got people out, there's also 70+ people in hospital. I wonder what the population of the tower was, it had 124 apartments.
     
  4. Above&Beyond

    Hitman

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    600 people the news said.
     
  5. LOAM

    Capodecina

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    Location: Nottingham

    In 124 apartments?
     
  6. Diddums

    Capodecina

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    Location: London

  7. adolf hamster

    Sgarrista

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    better than a fall onto cold hard concrete, there's no reason you couldn't make it a permanent internal fixture with an entrance on each floor
     
  8. dowie

    Capo Crimine

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    you can do both... note you're asking the same yourself re: why no cherry pickers
     
  9. BriT

    Mobster

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    Location: Reading

    Sad news, wonder how it started. Is there a risk of it falling down? I guess the main structure should be intact.
     
  10. Cern

    Mobster

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    Posts: 3,466

    Location: London

    Well the answer to that is obvious. No funding.
     
  11. Greebo

    Caporegime

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    Location: Co Durham

    Skysaver backpack?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...SEIL-multi-storey-buildings-escape-fires.html

    If I lived in a high rise I would make sure I had one of these.
     
  12. UTmaniac

    Soldato

    Joined: 9 Nov 2005

    Posts: 6,174

    Location: Southampton

    ~600 people in 124 apartments doesn't surprise me in the slightest, folks with 2/3 kids, house shares in these crazy house price times etc.
     
  13. dowie

    Capo Crimine

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    yes, that is rather obvious
     
  14. Greebo

    Caporegime

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    Location: Co Durham

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    Its London, cheap accommodation, pack them in like sardines?

    I felt really sorry for the mother this morning who left her flat with 6 children bu by the time she got to the bottom she had lost two children. Devastating. Can only guess how you would feel and be blaming yourself.
     
  15. snips86x

    Capodecina

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    Location: Close to Swindon, but not Swindon

  16. Hagar

    Sgarrista

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    Location: 5 degrees starboard

    As a minimum I would have expected the council to have retro fitted sprinklers in the stairwell during this refurbishment.

    New build high rises are required to have sprinkler systems.
     
  17. Richdog

    Caporegime

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    Location: Utopia

    One woman allegedly had 6 kids (unless she was taking other peoples kids down to safety too), so while it's very high, it's not a complete impossibility to average 4.8 people per apartment for a poor demographic. Actual figure is likely lower though.
     
  18. D.P.

    Caporegime

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    Its a complete joke of a device. Just setup a rope and have some descenders available.

    Or for fun they should just set up a bi plastic slide
     
  19. Above&Beyond

    Hitman

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    I thought it was quite a high figure, some reports are 400-600.
     
  20. Cern

    Mobster

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    Location: London

    This is no luxury apartment block (most of those are half empty anyway, but that's another issue). This is high-rise, cram them in cheap accommodation (well, cheap for London anyway).