Man that safety device is terrible. Did you see the problems the 3 of them had getting down?

 

I agree with the above. The regs are as they are partially because of a previous history of failed prosecutions with respect to higher management and corporates. CDM has really shaken up the construction industry for the better. I am not cynical I am just realistic about the far reaching scope of the Regs. This is what makes them effective.

 

Sky are saying Fire Fighters got to the 18th - 20th Floor and got people out, there's also 70+ people in hospital. I wonder what the population of the tower was, it had 124 apartments.

 

600 people the news said.

 

In 124 apartments?

 

This is quite revealing.

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com

 

better than a fall onto cold hard concrete, there's no reason you couldn't make it a permanent internal fixture with an entrance on each floor

 

you can do both... note you're asking the same yourself re: why no cherry pickers

 

Sad news, wonder how it started. Is there a risk of it falling down? I guess the main structure should be intact.

 

Well the answer to that is obvious. No funding.

 

Skysaver backpack?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...SEIL-multi-storey-buildings-escape-fires.html

If I lived in a high rise I would make sure I had one of these.

 

~600 people in 124 apartments doesn't surprise me in the slightest, folks with 2/3 kids, house shares in these crazy house price times etc.

 

yes, that is rather obvious

 

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Its London, cheap accommodation, pack them in like sardines?

I felt really sorry for the mother this morning who left her flat with 6 children bu by the time she got to the bottom she had lost two children. Devastating. Can only guess how you would feel and be blaming yourself.

 

That's genius!

 

As a minimum I would have expected the council to have retro fitted sprinklers in the stairwell during this refurbishment.

New build high rises are required to have sprinkler systems.

 

One woman allegedly had 6 kids (unless she was taking other peoples kids down to safety too), so while it's very high, it's not a complete impossibility to average 4.8 people per apartment for a poor demographic. Actual figure is likely lower though.

 

Its a complete joke of a device. Just setup a rope and have some descenders available.

Or for fun they should just set up a bi plastic slide

 

I thought it was quite a high figure, some reports are 400-600.

 

This is no luxury apartment block (most of those are half empty anyway, but that's another issue). This is high-rise, cram them in cheap accommodation (well, cheap for London anyway).