Underrated cars with potential?

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Stock internals? Wow that's impressive...

It's French tho...



That looks like another affordable little rocket, not many would expect it to have 300bhp. :p

In all honesty, it is plenty fast enough at stock. Does 0-60 in 6.2 and with peak toque at 2500 to 5000rpm meaning travelling in 3rd and 4th gear at around the 30-50mph range the car will shoots off like a rocket, overtaking is ridiculously fast, I don’t think I have ever needed to push the pedal all the way to the floor. It takes no time from 40mph to licence losing speed. It will happy sit at 70mph at a touch over 2,000 rpm so cruising on the motorway is effortless too. Interior is nice, it’s quiet, well put together. If you can find out with a Dynaudio upgrade then you’d be laughing.
 

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In all honesty, it is plenty fast enough at stock. Does 0-60 in 6.2 and with peak toque at 2500 to 5000rpm meaning travelling in 3rd and 4th gear at around the 30-50mph range the car will shoots off like a rocket, overtaking is ridiculously fast, I don’t think I have ever needed to push the pedal all the way to the floor. It takes no time from 40mph to licence losing speed. It will happy sit at 70mph at a touch over 2,000 rpm so cruising on the motorway is effortless too. Interior is nice, it’s quiet, well put together. If you can find out with a Dynaudio upgrade then you’d be laughing.

You've one? Any annoyances that appeared after a while of owning the car?

6.5 seconds for the manual, 6.9 seconds for the auto when stock.

Bit of light-ish tuning should see that under 6 seconds though!
£350 Stage 1 map will take you to 260bhp+ and 400Nm of torque. :D
 
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Corolla T-Sport. Chuck some springs and bracing into it and its a Cheap EP3 killer. (well, not quite 'killer') - Zero cheap tuning potential though. Well you might pick up 10HP with bolt ons.

Mazda 6 MPS is very overlooked too, nobody seems to mention them but whats not to like about a 250HP 2.3 turbo AWD manual saloon from circa '06, often with 80K~ miles, for under 5 grand? Easily tuned to over 300HP as well.

Acme needs to buy a nice red 6 ;)
 
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You've one? Any annoyances that appeared after a while of owning the car?


For £350 Stage 1 remap you can have 260bhp+ and 400Nm of torque. :D

I have a 2011 Facelift model, in auto. So it is slower in a way to a manual but in reality my gear shifting is not fast and in an auto it means the car just go through the gears without any input from me meaning I can hit silly speed way too easily (as opposed if I am in 3rd gear, it can only go so fast without shifting). I originally wanted a manual originally but due to the circumstances at the time didn’t give me much choice because everything else in this car ticked all the boxes and since then I have come to really like this car in auto because it can be a great long distance cruiser. I often do 150miles journeys in it and it’s just so easy, if you are a type of person who just want to relax and cruise, consider the auto, don’t rule it out.


They can come well equipped if you can find them too, mine have follow me home headlights, electric memory seats, heated seats, light and rain sensor, parking sensors, cruise and auto folding mirrors and xenons. I have seen ones with blind spot detection too but those are very rare. Don’t bother getting one with the Nav, it was dated when it came out and it is ridiculous now. Dynaudio upgrade would be good if you can find one, as is R-Design, it will make the car looks much nicer, as is the body matching skirting and bumper.


In terms of performance, you can do the Shark remap or the official Volvo Polestar remap (£800), which you will get a little blue badge to stick on your car. 30mpg is my average for fuel; Tax is £305 a year. The innards shares a lot with the Ford so should be cheap if you go to an indy. I get mine serviced at a local Volvo Specialist. Tyres are not stupid size so prices are good, Michelin PS4 is £130 a corner.


Only gripes are boot size (if it matters), only seats 4, it literally have 2 back seats, no middle seatbelt, but they are full size normal seats, same as the front seats. P.s. find one with the hard boot lid if possible, it’s a £350 part from Volvo, they also come with a “curtain” which is crap looking. Not a deal breaker as they can be bought separately. I had to get mine separate, was not a reason to reject the car for something I can resolve afterwards, albeit a £350 fix. The exhaust is quieter, it doesn’t do the clap clap thing, you can hear the turbo whin and hissssss though. The suspension absorb bumps on the road better than you expect, so I would say the ST would corner better but the C30 is more comfortable. Overall it is comfortable, reliable and really quick when you want it to be. Plus it has a better badge prestige if you care for that sort of thing.


On the road hardly anyone will know what engine it is underneath because I’ve seen some 2L Diesel with dual exhaust and R-Design body kit too. So the only way to tell is the T5 badge. There are not that many of these on the road to begin with so a T5 is actually hard to find, there are currently no facelift model T5 for sale on Autotrader. Good or bad it doesn’t come with the street cred or sigma of the Focus ST. I have no doubt the ST is a better handling car but the C30 is a more comfortable, weirdly it sits lower and the car is more underrated and more rare certainly.
 

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Thanks, they're quite heavy too.. nearly 1420-1600kg is a lot for a small car.

@Acme You're more obsessed with the EP3's than me... lol :p
 
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My Corolla is currently for sale and I have been browsing Mazda 6 MPS's, as well as 350Z's, boosted MX5's, E39 sports, 330Ci's, and all kinds of other shiz... :o

I don't even want one... :p
So basically you're going to sell a fully working car and get another money pit? :D
 
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Sod the speedometer, what is that thing revving to :eek:
"Sometimes I shift at Gravel, sometimes I shift at snow"


My Corolla is currently for sale and I have been browsing Mazda 6 MPS's, as well as 350Z's, boosted MX5's, E39 sports, 330Ci's, and all kinds of other shiz... :o

I don't even want one... :p

Do what you should have always done, buy another good MX5 and add boost. Just don't copy me, that means bent things
 
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Looking at a 200HP~ supercharged NA with a pretty sizeable spec list at the moment...

Jackson racing supercharger kit w' reduction pulley
MK3 Supra injectors
DDM Works cold air box
Over-rad hard piped FMIC
Mazdaspeed manifold
Cobalt exhaust
Monoflex coilovers
GV rear panel
GV splitter
Buddyclub carbon bonnet
Rota RKR 15x8 ET10 alloys
Bride LowMax seats
Takata harnesses
TR Lane roll bar

And other less important but nice bits and pieces like RS Active low pro headlights, ducktail, canards (not stupid ones), s2000 skirts made to fit, heated hardtop + soft top etc etc...

He's asking £4K but I feel theres a bit of wiggle room. Finding out more about its history, any rust/rot/past repairs and so on at the moment. Its not too far away so I can view it easily.

If I should ever decide to switch to a turbo setup, I should be able to sell the supercharger kit and the manifold etc for more than it would cost to set it up for turboing as well.
 
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Yeah the sleeperish aspect of it is good fun. Mine has been sitting at about 24MPG average for the past couple of months because despite having owned three cars with this engine now, I can't help myself... Driving around town etc its actually less economical than my 1990 325i Touring which is just ridiculous... :p

Handling wise perhaps its because I came from MX5's so the Corolla feels a bit worse than it is, but I'm pretty sure its still worse than an EP3 or a Renaultsport even with springs and a strut brace... I'm sure a proper set of coilovers would see it right though.

oh yeah it wont handle as well as a CTR in stock form, theres a reason the civic was classed as the best hot hatch at that time, the clio 172 handles better, but they were more designed for that, the corolla was more of a grown up sporty car.

i wouldve loved the celica T sport, but wouldnt have been able to fit car seats in the back or be practical enough lol
 
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oh yeah it wont handle as well as a CTR in stock form, theres a reason the civic was classed as the best hot hatch at that time, the clio 172 handles better, but they were more designed for that, the corolla was more of a grown up sporty car.

i wouldve loved the celica T sport, but wouldnt have been able to fit car seats in the back or be practical enough lol

I had a shed of a Celica T-Sport (GT) for a while. Pushing aside the ***** - Swearing (Stelly) of my particular example, it was an incredible car to drive. It had an MR2 LSD in it and it just gripped and gripped and gripped, it was actually amazing. I've never driven so fast round corners in my life... :p
 
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