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Underrated cars with potential?

Discussion in 'Motors' started by IC3, 11 Feb 2018.

  1. Acme

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    You can. For sub £1000. In fact, sub £600 sometimes. :p
     
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  2. Gibbo

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    Golf R is under 1400kg, its not 2 tonnes.

    The DSG is also very solid, people have more issues with the manuals as VW put weak clutches in them which slip with anything much over 350lb/ft whereas the DSG can handle a lot more. Don't really hear of anyone having issues with MK7 and MK7.5 DSG.

    A MK7 and MK7.5 stage Golf R are very quick cars, if you were walking one you were doing very well, especially a MK7 DSG as they are much quicker than the manuals and a huge amount quicker than the MK6.

    I took mine to Pod and without LC it ran an easy [email protected] on stage 1 on shelf map. I had it custom mapped afterwards and same car, same mods ran [email protected], I really doubt you'd be anywhere close to that even in terminal speed to be honest, but be happy to be proven wrong, bring it to the POD meet. :)
     
  3. Frozennova

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    Not necessarily underrated but pound for pound a turbo/supercharged MK1/2 MX5 is hard to beat.

    Pointy, lightweight, nimble chassis with 996 GT3 power to weight ratio
     
  4. Diddums

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    @IC3 interesting vid for you dude.
     
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  5. IC3

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    I remember the car! S4 B8 :cool:
     
  6. Sindri

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    Have to agree, if you were pulling away from a mapped golf r when you only have 250 bhp i would expect your car to weigh less than 1000kg.
    The ea888 engine can return 370bhp from a stage 1 remap.
     
  7. Mr_Sukebe

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    I thought the Kerbweight was over 1500kg?
     
  8. Gibbo

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    Not 100% sure but I think they are around 1400kg, whether they are 1500 or 1400kg they are bonkers quick, when these things are doing high 11 quarter miles miles with 120 terminals shows they are damn quick and as they are around 360HP they cannot be that heavy.
     
  9. Flack88

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    Lad at work has a Leon Cupra K1 with hybrid turbo and he loves it, he has spent a fortune on it however.
     
  10. Alibaba99

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    The Scirocco is still based on the Mk5 Golf, the platforms are quite different.
     
  11. IC3

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    How much were you planning on getting out of your Golf R power wise, before you sold it?
     
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  12. Gibbo

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    It made 370HP & 390lb/ft I spent £1200:
    - ECU Tune & TCU tune: £750
    - Catted Downpipe & panel filter: £450

    Which gave those results, [email protected] at Pod without LC. Never got a run with LC, but another R, same mods ran an [email protected] with LC. In short the DSG and Haldex make them seriously quick cars for very little outlay, I guess you could say the only issue is you need LC to get the serious quick times which you don't tend to use on the road as you feel an idiot sat there with the car going brap brap brap and not every LC launch is guaranteed to launch. Sometimes it can bog, other times its like being catapulted. My 0-60 was around 3.8s without LC which was easily repeated and with LC was very low 3s area, so it makes quite a big difference to the acceleration and there is no limit on how much you can use it, but I am sure it adds some extra stress launching around 3500rpm compared to just stomping it from idle. To be frank not much if anything could live with it from a stand still without LC and even upto triple digits an R8 V10 could not pull away from it, was only into triple digits the R8 disappeared into the distance.

    As you can probably gather, the Golf R seriously impressed me and the newer MK7.5 is even better, more efficient DSG and a 7th cog for motorway cruising.

    If I had kept it, I would of fitted cheaper decat downpipe, intercooler which is good for 400/400, or might have just gone with the hybrid 470 kit, but you then sacrifice some initial acceleration and drive ability in favour of top-end roll on performance.
     
  13. Flack88

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    Always remember the R32 being a bit of a drug dealer car used to see a few of them at police auctions :p:D
     
  14. Funky-Melon

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    T5D5 probably, they're the high performance Volvo club, they're got some pretty impressive figures on their cars.

    I had the S40 saloon version, stupidly fun to drive with stock 200hp, 0-60 in under 7 seconds and a shove in the seat that made me smile every time I went out in it.

    Mine had heated leather seats, xenons, cruise control and cost me £1100 4 years ago with 130k on it. I upgraded the intercooler, lowered it, full 3" JT tuning exhaust on it and had the engine rebuilt by Tim Williams with forged internals ready for 400+bhp, then some women cut me up and slammed on her brakes and that was the end of it. I miss it everyday!

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    Now have a newer fully loaded S40 T5 which is lovely, very linear power curve though, fast, but doesn't FEEL fast - Would swap it for my old T4 in a heartbeat!