Upgrade advice needed please.

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:01

Hi,

So I have a 3080 Ventus card on order and am wondering if this bundle would be a fitting upgrade to my 6700K?
I mainly game (BF5, sim racing etc) but also music production so prefer Intel over AMD. I figure this combo would potentially last me another 4 or 5 years so worth it for me.
I have a buddy who is soon building a first PC for his son and I was going to donate the 6700K bundle. This was the deal from 2016 with Asus Maximus VIII Hero, aio cooler and 32gb or ram.

I’d be keeping my case, (Fractal Design R4) EVGA 750 watt psu, WD M2 drive + Seagate 2TB HD.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x 8Pack Elite Tier ASUS ROG Strix Z490-G Overclocked i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz Gaming Bundle = £1,280.99 [ Memory:Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit[/SIZE]
Cooler:Asetek 670LT 240mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler + EK Vardar Fans - 1200

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Total: £1,280.99 (includes shipping: £0.00)

orbitalwalsh · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:08

Hypersonix said:
Hi,

So I have a 3080 Ventus card on order and am wondering if this bundle would be a fitting upgrade to my 6700K?
I mainly game (BF5, sim racing etc) but also music production so prefer Intel over AMD. I figure this combo would potentially last me another 4 or 5 years so worth it for me.
I have a buddy who is soon building a first PC for his son and I was going to donate the 6700K bundle. This was the deal from 2016 with Asus Maximus VIII Hero, aio cooler and 32gb or ram.

I’d be keeping my case, (Fractal Design R4) EVGA 750 watt psu, WD M2 drive + Seagate 2TB HD.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x 8Pack Elite Tier ASUS ROG Strix Z490-G Overclocked i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz Gaming Bundle = £1,280.99 [ Memory:Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit[/SIZE]

Cooler:Asetek 670LT 240mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler + EK Vardar Fans - 1200

[/LIST]

Total: £1,280.99 (includes shipping: £0.00)

cheaper

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Ultra (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £319.99
1 x Intel Core i9-10850K Avengers Edition 3.6GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £439.99
1 x Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit= £209.99
1 x Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - 360mm= £99.95

Total: £1,081.02 (includes shipping: £11.10)

manually oc to 5ghz. not to hard. still 10 cores/20 threads

more savings

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i9-10850K Avengers Edition 3.6GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £439.99
1 x Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - 360mm= £99.95
1 x Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £199.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £109.99

Total: £860.42 (includes shipping: £10.50)

£1280 odd vs £850... yeah.. £850 and RTX 3080 payment is mostly covered

althought case doesn't support 360 rads

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Alphacool Eisbaer 280mm CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - Black= £119.99

Total: £128.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)

Dropping to 10700k again saves more, and 8 cores/ 16 threads which is double what your using and plenty ...

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:17

If your gaming at 4k then 6700k it's not that much of a bottleneck using a 3080.

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:27

Oh, this is great, thank you!
The more I can save the better, especially in these times.

I do think the 10700K would be more than enough power so would definitely include that.
Does the mobo have dual M2 slots as I’d like to add another at a later point?

If that cooler is the one you recommend I could go for a new case now that we’ve saved a considerable amount in the cpu. Something mid size and quiet, I also don’t need it to have a window or leds and lighting as I’ve never been a fan of that.

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:29

mickyflinn said:
If your gaming at 4k then 6700k it's not that much of a bottleneck using a 3080.

I use a 1440 144Hz monitor for BF5 and general and a 3440x1440 100hz for sim racing.
I’m going to put the card in my current system for now, just getting ideas for the cpu etc upgrade.

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 15:32

Hypersonix said:
I use a 1440 144Hz monitor for BF5 and general and a 3440x1440 100hz for sim racing.
I’m going to put the card in my current system for now, just getting ideas for the cpu etc upgrade.

Cool

Zen 3 is due for release In 9ctober see what that brings.

orbitalwalsh · 23 Sep 2020 at 16:02

mickyflinn said:
Cool

Zen 3 is due for release In 9ctober see what that brings.

hopefully some price drops.... unless it sells out of stock like Zen1 and 2 and shots up in pricing as before and RTX 3*** .
Have a feeling it will, so many of us on Zen1/+ looking for that jump! guessing those on Zen2 as well . Please dont let stocks down AMD!

orbitalwalsh · 23 Sep 2020 at 16:04

Hypersonix said:
Oh, this is great, thank you!
The more I can save the better, especially in these times.

I do think the 10700K would be more than enough power so would definitely include that.
Does the mobo have dual M2 slots as I’d like to add another at a later point?

If that cooler is the one you recommend I could go for a new case now that we’ve saved a considerable amount in the cpu. Something mid size and quiet, I also don’t need it to have a window or leds and lighting as I’ve never been a fan of that.

would recommend a new case.. with good cooling!

yes, has 3 m.2's and top ones will be PCIe 4.0 with 11th Gen intel. Zen2 already at pcie 4.0

BF5 does like cores!

short cases, quiet but have to check wiith AIO at the front (360) if GPU length will be okay, or 280 aio at the top with ram

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Corsair 4000D Mid-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011198-WW)= £79.99
1 x be quiet! Pure Base 500 Midi Tower Case - Black= £69.95
1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid-Tower Case - Black Dark Tint Tempered Glass= £99.95

Total: £270.71 (includes shipping: £20.82)

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 16:32

orbitalwalsh said:
would recommend a new case.. with good cooling!

yes, has 3 m.2's and top ones will be PCIe 4.0 with 11th Gen intel. Zen2 already at pcie 4.0

BF5 does like cores!

short cases, quiet but have to check wiith AIO at the front (360) if GPU length will be okay, or 280 aio at the top with ram

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Corsair 4000D Mid-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (CC-9011198-WW)= £79.99

1 x be quiet! Pure Base 500 Midi Tower Case - Black= £69.95

1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid-Tower Case - Black Dark Tint Tempered Glass= £99.95

Total: £270.71 (includes shipping: £20.82)

I like the look of the Fractal case, that will be in the list then.

Is it only 11th gen Intel that supports pcie 4 for the gtx card? I guess if so it would be worth waiting then?

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 16:42

Hypersonix said:
Is it only 11th gen Intel that supports pcie 4 for the gtx card? I guess if so it would be worth waiting then?

Pcie4 doesn't bring much more performance for the 3080.

orbitalwalsh · 23 Sep 2020 at 18:43

mickyflinn said:
Pcie4 doesn't bring much more performance for the 3080.

Not yet, RTX IO will help. But it'll be next round of GPUs that will uses it . But then we'll also be on DDR5 etc

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 19:32

Thanks all for the help so far.
i didn’t realise the price jump from 10700 to 10850 was so small so I’ve gone for the latter.

Does anyone know if the cooler and 3080 will fit in this case? I’d hate for it not too when it all arrives. I’ve built a few PCs in my time so up for the job, as long as everything is compatible.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - 360mm= £99.95
1 x Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £199.99
1 x Intel Core i9-10850K Avengers Edition 3.6GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £439.99
1 x Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit= £209.99
1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid-Tower Case - Black= £91.99
1 x Corsair HXi Series HX750i 750W '80 Plus Platinum Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020072-UK)= £162.95

Total: £1,204.86 (includes shipping: £0.00)

orbitalwalsh · 23 Sep 2020 at 19:57

Hypersonix said:
Thanks all for the help so far.
i didn’t realise the price jump from 10700 to 10850 was so small so I’ve gone for the latter.

Does anyone know if the cooler and 3080 will fit in this case? I’d hate for it not too when it all arrives. I’ve built a few PCs in my time so up for the job, as long as everything is compatible.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Alphacool Eisbaer LT360 CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - 360mm= £99.95

1 x Gigabyte Z490 Aorus Elite AC (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £199.99

1 x Intel Core i9-10850K Avengers Edition 3.6GHz (Comet Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail= £439.99

1 x Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit= £209.99

1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Compact Mid-Tower Case - Black= £91.99

1 x Corsair HXi Series HX750i 750W '80 Plus Platinum Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020072-UK)= £162.95

Total: £1,204.86 (includes shipping: £0.00)

Yes, intel took flak with 10 core pricing with 16 cores not being to much more from Ryzen. Makes it cheaper then Ryzen 12 core sometimes and faster in gaming !

Heads up, that case... 341mm is max GPU length with a front fan installed... Add 25mm for that Eisbaer rad (slimmer then Standard Eisbaer and AIO units) that leaves 316mm for your GPU ! Please keeps that in mind with compact cases and RTX 3*** cards

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 20:22

orbitalwalsh said:
Yes, intel took flak with 10 core pricing with 16 cores not being to much more from Ryzen. Makes it cheaper then Ryzen 12 core sometimes and faster in gaming !

Heads up, that case... 341mm is max GPU length with a front fan installed... Add 25mm for that Eisbaer rad (slimmer then Standard Eisbaer and AIO units) that leaves 316mm for your GPU ! Please keeps that in mind with compact cases and RTX 3*** cards

Can the radiator be top mounted or is this not the way?

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 21:07

Hypersonix said:
Can the radiator be top mounted or is this not the way?

Room for GPUs up to 360 mm with a 240 mm radiator in the top, or up to 360/280 mm front radiators with GPUs under 305 mm

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 21:38

mickyflinn said:
Room for GPUs up to 360 mm with a 240 mm radiator in the top, or up to 360/280 mm front radiators with GPUs under 305 mm

I think I need to do some careful case research.
Cheers

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 21:47

Hypersonix said:
I think I need to do some careful case research.
Cheers

The non compact version mite be an better option

FRACTAL DESIGN DEFINE 7

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-7-mid-tower-case-black-ca-08e-fd.html

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 21:57

mickyflinn said:
The non compact version mite be an better option

FRACTAL DESIGN DEFINE 7

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/fractal-design-define-7-mid-tower-case-black-ca-08e-fd.html

That looks more like it. I’d remove the storage cage so this increases useable gfx length substantially.
I plan on having two M2 drives in with a single hdd which I’m sure can be fitted somewhere without the need of the cage.

mickyflinn · 23 Sep 2020 at 22:02

Hypersonix said:
That looks more like it. I’d remove the storage cage so this increases useable gfx length substantially.
I plan on having two M2 drives in with a single hdd which I’m sure can be fitted somewhere without the need of the cage.

Don't you fancy a smidge of rgb ?

Hypersonix · 23 Sep 2020 at 22:15

mickyflinn said:
Don't you fancy a smidge of rgb ?

If I go for the windowed model the temptation for strobes and lasers might get me in the end.