Vinyl flooring. Which/where?

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Tomorrow morning I'm nipping to screwfix to pick up a boiler suit and a polythene door to block off my stairs. I'm going to tape up all other entrances so my downstairs looks like a set from Dexter. I already have gloves and I'm going to use my standard issue GSR. Being full face and with twin filter canisters, I think it's going to be better than anything I could buy off the shelf. I'll post photos if I remember, wish me luck :D
 
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Leave the tiles alone.Just fill in the missing bits with febflo or similar
Don`t try to take them up you are in for a major job if you do
To lay a room size area with levelling compound is not as easy as you may think(even if it is called self levelling,it is not! )
 
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Leave the tiles alone.Just fill in the missing bits with febflo or similar
Don`t try to take them up you are in for a major job if you do
To lay a room size area with levelling compound is not as easy as you may think(even if it is called self levelling,it is not! )

Kind of disagree. Covering up problems is easier but just making the job crap for someone else down the line.

Sometimes it's nice to do things properly. Granted most people run from this at the mention of asbestos, but as long as he takes precautions it'll be fine.
 
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That is the debate I had recently :( decades of neglect and previous poor quality of work and so on meant that stripping back to the bare walls when redecorating would have resulted in requiring a major amount of remedial work and probably calling in the professionals but patching over the top was just that making the best of an already bad job - but in the circumstances (with people coming to stay soon, etc.) the inconvenience and time involved doing a proper job just wasn't really feasible.
 
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He will have a much smoother floor if he leaves the tiles in place
If he pulls them up(major PITA)he will most likely rip up chunks of the cement floor,he will then have to scrape/sort of plane the tar/bitumen adhesive and then coat over with some sort of specialist glue/sealer.
Maybe SBR (this stuff is not cheap)
Then apply the self levelling
As I said before even if it is called self levelling it does not.You have to trowel it flat yourself (Not easy for your average DIYer,no offence intended op)
At the end of the day you will see no benefit as it will be covered over and probably not as flat/solid/smooth as existing

I have done this in work many times so I do know a thing or two about it :)
 
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He will have a much smoother floor if he leaves the tiles in place
If he pulls them up(major PITA)he will most likely rip up chunks of the cement floor,he will then have to scrape/sort of plane the tar/bitumen adhesive and then coat over with some sort of specialist glue/sealer.
Maybe SBR (this stuff is not cheap)
Then apply the self levelling
As I said before even if it is called self levelling it does not.You have to trowel it flat yourself (Not easy for your average DIYer,no offence intended op)
At the end of the day you will see no benefit as it will be covered over and probably not as flat/solid/smooth as existing

I have done this in work many times so I do know a thing or two about it :)

If its concrete then it will need an appropriate moisture barrier for vinyl.
 
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Understand about covering over the tiles but to be honest, I want rid of them because your floor is as good as the weakest part and with already cracked and damaged tiles, that's the weakest part. I don't want to be lifting expensive vinyl down the line to fix it.

I've been and collected several items, namely the KA SBR primer and then KA tanking slurry. There is a bit of damp on the floor when I pulled the underlay up see. Following that I'm laying setcrete primer and finally setcrete latex SLC. I've used this stuff before so I'm confident. Big day ahead!
 
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You're right, this is massive pita. The tiles around the edges came up easily, led me into false hope and the rest are a nightmare! Most of them are just crumbling up, which is exactly not what I wanted. I might have to leave them down after all.

Any Idea if you can SBR then slurry over these thermoplastic tiles?
 
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Have recently had to do the same thing in my house, very similar tiles, just in brown. Ended up using a heat gun to help in softening up the adhesive and tile. Made the job a whole lot easier and quicker, although it still took longer than you first realise.

If you can, do it properly from the off as it might not be left for someone else down the line to have work around later, it could just as easily be you!!

I now need to repair the concrete, seal with a DPC and then SLC read for a new floor.

Certainly have learnt that with old properties it's never ending and more often than not, it's never a quick job. The hidden surprises are plentiful and at times very, very frustrating to put it mildly.

Good luck OP with which ever route you choose to take!
 
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All done. It took 11 bags of setcrete to cover the lot, I'm spent!

I'm not ashamed to say I ended up abandoning lifting the tiles because they were mostly difficult to lift and they tended to shatter into small pieces. Here's hoping the subfloor holds up then!
 
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Tomorrow morning I'm nipping to screwfix to pick up a boiler suit and a polythene door to block off my stairs. I'm going to tape up all other entrances so my downstairs looks like a set from Dexter. I already have gloves and I'm going to use my standard issue GSR. Being full face and with twin filter canisters, I think it's going to be better than anything I could buy off the shelf. I'll post photos if I remember, wish me luck :D
Do not use your gsr it will do nothing you need a face mask with a p3 rating
 

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Leave it down.

My old man is a carpet fitter/ Tiler this stuff crops up more and more, everytime its leave it down and level if required (often not) and just insulate above.

Complete waste of time and effort taking them up unless your removing concrete for underfloor heating.
 
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