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Vista, Vista, Vista, Vista, Vista and Vista

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by Kerplunk, 27 Feb 2006.

  1. Kerplunk

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    Location: Bournemouth tbh

  2. NathanE

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    Right...

    What do you want us to discuss?

    What does the roll eyes mean?
     
  3. Otacon

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    So, only 5 real versions for us lot. Less than I was expecting tbh.

    It could be a good thing if they price them right - proof is in the pudding I guess.
     
  4. afraser2k

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    Surprised at Microsoft doing that with their next release even with the ruling.
     
  5. Lt. Manlove

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    Do you know how much money it was costing them?
     
  6. mattbrown91

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    I think we'll be going for ultimate...
     
  7. grahamjenks

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    Looks like it'll be Home Premium for most users, the basic option might be the one that comes with lots of PC's from manufactures aimed at families - but no ones likely to upgrade to something very similar to XP.
    Be interesting to see how its all priced.
     
  8. bledd

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    they've been doing that with xp too!

    xp-n
     
  9. Otacon

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    Do we know if there will be an easy upgrade/downgrade path between versions?
     
  10. NathanE

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    Microsoft has said there is. Don't count on there being paths between the Home editions to the Business editions though ;)

    I expect they'll allow for:
    Home Basic -> Home Premium -> Ultimate.
    and
    Business -> Enterprise -> Ultimate.
     
  11. Psyk

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    Even with XP they are only really doing it in theory. The 'N' versions (that's without WMP) are hard to find and cost the same as the regular versions. It seems so pointless that they have to be able to supply a version without WMP but they don't have to sell it cheaper or give any incentive for people to buy it. They could probably afford to not even bother mass producing them, probably only a handful of people have bothered to buy it.
     
  12. PinkPig

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    The ruling and the adjusted editions are ridiculous - why would anyone try to go out and buy something specifically to get media player not included? They have to comply with legislation, but in practice it's ridiculous. Presumably anyone unfortunate enough to end up with an "N" version will still be able to download media player for free?
     
  13. Otacon

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    Heh, indeed not. If people wanted to go that route then it forces them to Ultimate if they want a hassle free option.

    I've been tempted, simply because I never use WMP - But I do take your point. 90% of Joe users would feel short changed if WMP was missing.

    I believe it is free to download for the 'N' version btw.
     
  14. dirtydog

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    So which version will be analogous to XP Home? For most home users, XP Home is arguably all that is needed. I suspect that the Vista Home Basic edition won't fall into that happy category though? Will it be XP Home = Vista Home Premium and XP Pro = Vista Ultimate?
     
  15. Syph

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    Here: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp gives a good breakdown of the versions and what they mean to 'us lot'.
     
  16. Atomic

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    I don't use that anymore - for XP I use Media player classic from sourceforge. Plays DVD's and pretty much everything else.
     
  17. Scythe

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    I think I will be getting ultimate, as long as its no mega $$$$. If that is the case, I'll go for Home Premium.
     
  18. dirtydog

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    :/

    Looks like the XP Home equivalent will be Vista Home Premium then. I wonder why they're bothering with the 'Basic' version if it's going to be as crippled as Paul Thurrott says.
     
  19. G|mp

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    Is there any dates involed with all this yet?

    Helps if i read the article :o :rolleyes:
     
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  20. afraser2k

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    That's what I was meaning. Although they currently offer a WMP-removed XP I can't seem to find one easily on the 'net. I thought they'd do the same thing with Vista but it seems their policy has been changed.

    The basic and lighter editions for Vista will obviously be for Middle East/East Asia regions that have a high rate of piracy (though I doubt it'll change much). The lighter edition of Vista that runs on older equipment could be interesting as a threat to Linux on old hardware (like turning old PC's into routers/firewalls).

    Just all depends on what Microsoft lets us play with when they're all released.