What Card to get 470 or 5850 ??

[Big.Wayne]

i am after a new card for gaming

What res cupofchow?

 

[sturmtruppe]

Another question worth asking, is what are the idle temps been like for 470 users these past few days since I am thinking of grabbing a 470 also.

 

[dekter]

btw, my Antec 1200 case fans @ medium speed are louder than my 470

 

[cupofchow]

What res cupofchow?

1920x1080 mate

 

[liquidex]

If its pure bang for buck then 5850.

Btw Antec tricool fans at medium are loud

 

[PaulyD]

no, I have a 5770 and am getting a 470 over a 5850 despite costing me an extra £80 because I'm going to WC it, and 4xx have far larger increase in performance per extra MHz than 58xx.

a 770MHz 470 or 480 will wipe the floor with any 5870, and they're far better when it comes to minimum fps anyway

Did you actually read the link below:

http://www.techspot.com/review/283-geforce-gtx-400-vs-radeon-hd-5800/

Wouldn't say its far better at minimum FPS when the majority of the difference is one or two FPS with generally the 5850 coming out better.

Put on top of that the 5850 will clock much futher..

However I go off topic and that is your choice, my personal recommendation to the OP though would be the 5850

 

[555BUK]

If they were both the same price it would be a very tough to splite them. As they are not the same price the decision for most people is easy.

Get the 5850.

 

[Big.Wayne]

• i am after a new card for gaming
• 1920x1080

Seems to be FullHD is becoming a standard res for the playboys!

Next question is . . . What GPU are you using now? . . . and any particular games your locked into atm or are hoping to play soon?

 

[Marine-RX179]

Did you actually read the link below:

http://www.techspot.com/review/283-geforce-gtx-400-vs-radeon-hd-5800/

Wouldn't say its far better at minimum FPS when the majority of the difference is one or two FPS with generally the 5850 coming out better.

Put on top of that the 5850 will clock much futher..

However I go off topic and that is your choice, my personal recommendation to the OP though would be the 5850

May be you should have a look at this, particularly for the 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF results:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/5
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/7
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/9

While majority games the 5850 is faster than GTX470, but there are games which GTX470 get higher minimum frame rate than 5850...and even 5870 in 4xAA mode. This is not to say the GTX470 is better, but more to the point of 5850/5870 get hit much harder on the minimum frame rate in some games when AA is applied. A few frame rate difference in minimum might sound like not a big deal, but if the frame rate is at above vs below 25fps, that's the difference of smooth vs not smooth already.

With that said, 5850 is still clearly a better buy than the GTX470, simply because of the nvidia cards are being priced way too high. If the GTX470/480 were priced at compariable level to 5850/5870, pretty sure it would be more attractive and people would buy them even if they do suck more power and run hotter.

 

[dekter]

Another question worth asking, is what are the idle temps been like for 470 users these past few days since I am thinking of grabbing a 470 also.

Yesterday evening 40 degrees
Room temperature was 30 degrees

 

[dekter]

If its pure bang for buck then 5850.

Btw Antec tricool fans at medium are loud

yes , but comparing to them my 470 is silent

 

[AgedIdiot]

If the GTX470/480 were priced at comparable level to 5850/5870, pretty sure it would be more attractive and people would buy them even if they do suck more power and run hotter.

+1 .

 

[Ordokai]

I'm surprised at the discussion. Unless one dabbles in cuda or has a 120 Hz monitor, the 5850 is the better buy hands down. Considering the price difference, comparing them directly is silly.




- Ordokai

 

[Marine-RX179]

I'm surprised at the discussion. Unless one dabbles in cuda or has a 120 Hz monitor, the 5850 is the better buy hands down. Considering the price difference, comparing them directly is silly.

If 5850 was still priced at £200~£220 like when at launch, then the decision is obviously very clearly leening toward it. But now with the average 5850 that are in stock priced at average £240~£250 and with non-reference PCB that can't mod voltage (in another word people that are buying 5850 now are actually paying more for less), can't really be surprised that got people thinking about the GTX470 too. One thing to my surprise was I just googled GTX470, and there are actually places selling the GTX470 range from £244 to £270...

 

[IKMS]

One thing to my surprise was I just googled GTX470, and there are actually places selling the GTX470 range from £244 to £270...

I also had a look and yes they are advertising that price but on closer inspection that is without VAT.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I also had a look and yes they are advertising that price but on closer inspection that is without VAT.

You are right...knew it is too good to be true lol. So it seem the lowest price one is £270 inc. VAT, and that's from fairly reliable etailer too.

 

[gurusan]

Cuda, Physx and 3D vision.

 

[cupofchow]

Never mind just got a GTX480

 

[DK06CTR]

Very nice so in the end went for a more overpriced not worth it in relation to performance option than the gtx470. Should have gone 5870 at that price but then again each to there own I guess.

 

[Devious]

Very nice so in the end went for a more overpriced not worth it in relation to performance option than the gtx470. Should have gone 5870 at that price but then again each to there own I guess.

He paid £340 of MM iirc.