When are you going fully electric?

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I nearly went full electric on my new lease. I only drive short journeys and brother in law has gone electric so I could charge it when I see them twice a week. I see some very good deals on some electric leases but ended up with a Corsa as it was very cheap for the spec.
 
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I nearly went full electric on my new lease. I only drive short journeys and brother in law has gone electric so I could charge it when I see them twice a week. I see some very good deals on some electric leases but ended up with a Corsa as it was very cheap for the spec.

I'm sorry to hear you ended up with the Corsa. :cry:

Did you do a full cost breakdown of the Corsa vs the electric Equivalent? With the lower fuel costs, maintenance costs etc of electric it comes up very close to the petrol equivalent.
 

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I nearly went full electric on my new lease. I only drive short journeys and brother in law has gone electric so I could charge it when I see them twice a week. I see some very good deals on some electric leases but ended up with a Corsa as it was very cheap for the spec.
Warning: so sorry for the off topic, but seeing as this isnt about an electric..

Always curious about cheap leases on a thing like a (ICE, i'll leave electric out as this is early days with an unproven used market) Corsa. Genuinely i dont understand why people buy or lease new ones if the aim is clearly just to drive around in a cheap as possible car. Any number of almost identical cars which cost buttons to run can simply be bought outright for a few grand and run for years and years until they die. Of course it is rather good that everyone does not have the same mindset as me, or we would end up in stalemate :D
 
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A lot of it comes from the perceived cost of unreliability vs the convenience of a fixed monthly payment.

Over the last 5 years I have done as you suggested. Outside of normal servicing, my car has broken twice and I have spent £1400 on those repairs (one was £1k).

I’m certainly spent considerably less money compared to leasing over 5 years even if the car was a complete write off (which it isn’t) but on the flip side I have had to drive an older car with older equipment, older styling, fewer mod cons, likely fewer safety features, and slightly lower fuel economy.

It’s all about priorities, and if you just want an easy life with a fixed monthly payment then leasing is for you but you have to get your wallet out.
 
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Any number of almost identical cars which cost buttons to run can simply be bought outright for a few grand and run for years and years until they die.

I agree with your point tbh, but when someone is on a budget what can you get for a few grand (£3-4k max). Link a suggestion from AT and I'll see what I can find.
 
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A lot of it comes from the perceived cost of unreliability vs the convenience of a fixed monthly payment.

Over the last 5 years I have done as you suggested. Outside of normal servicing, my car has broken twice and I have spent £1400 on those repairs (one was £1k).

I’m certainly spent considerably less money compared to leasing over 5 years even if the car was a complete write off (which it isn’t) but on the flip side I have had to drive an older car with older equipment, older styling, fewer mod cons, likely fewer safety features, and slightly lower fuel economy.

It’s all about priorities, and if you just want an easy life with a fixed monthly payment then leasing is for you but you have to get your wallet out.

All depends what suits you and what deal you can get. I had a Mini Cooper SD Chilli Pack (A £24k list price car at the time) on special offer lease at £159 per month which included road tax and free servicing so only tyres to pay.

No worries about breaking down or big unexpected bills and should be very reliable. To me that was a very nice car for less than £37 per week cost. My missus loved it anyway.

Yes we could have got an older car which wasnt as nice, less features, less reliable and saved money.
 

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I agree with your point tbh, but when someone is on a budget what can you get for a few grand (£3-4k max). Link a suggestion from AT and I'll see what I can find.
To be honest, i didnt have anything in mind, i just meant any old thing. If you just want some transport then we are rather spoilt in this country when it comes to the prices of generic used Skoda/VW/Vauxhall/whatever. Then run it for virtually nothing :)

Apologies, this is a tangent not for this thread, i just find the notion of spending actual money on something like a Corsa to be something which i will likely never fully understand.
 
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To be honest, i didnt have anything in mind, i just meant any old thing. If you just want some transport then we are rather spoilt in this country when it comes to the prices of generic used Skoda/VW/Vauxhall/whatever. Then run it for virtually nothing :)

Apologies, this is a tangent not for this thread, i just find the notion of spending actual money on something like a Corsa to be something which i will likely never fully understand.

Its a car, it has 4 wheels and gets you from A to B. I have driven some sheds in my life as if they spend all day in a work carpark, whats the point is spending loads on them? Esp if its a second car.

Same at my old place. Most people worked 60+ hours and the car park was full of trash, One guy just bought anything with 6 months MOT on it and then ran it until it ran out and then bought another one. Come summer though these car wreck drivers would all turn up on that years latest model high performance bikes. Thats where they spent their money.
 
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To be honest, i didnt have anything in mind, i just meant any old thing. If you just want some transport then we are rather spoilt in this country when it comes to the prices of generic used Skoda/VW/Vauxhall/whatever. Then run it for virtually nothing :)

Apologies, this is a tangent not for this thread, i just find the notion of spending actual money on something like a Corsa to be something which i will likely never fully understand.

Well I had a quick look while I was eating lunch and it seems you are somewhat limited in choice, £4k will get you a 2014 Ford Ka with 45k on it, or a Kia Picanto, or a Corsa etc. Obviously at 7 years old, you need to make sure you are buying something mechanically sound with a good service history. No bells or whistles on either of them either, as expected really, but I suppose it is like when I go abroad on holiday, I tend to rent a whole villa rather than taking a cheaper package deal to the same destination overall, and staying in shared accommodation with shared facilities. Yes I am spending quite bit more for the same time away, but my overall satisfaction of the time is greater and I tend to enjoy it more.

It is all a balancing act to find what is acceptable to "you" and for some that will be a low end car, that is newer, at a higher expense for piece of mind, or even just enjoyment. :)
 

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Well I had a quick look while I was eating lunch and it seems you are somewhat limited in choice, £4k will get you a 2014 Ford Ka with 45k on it, or a Kia Picanto, or a Corsa etc. Obviously at 7 years old, you need to make sure you are buying something mechanically sound with a good service history. No bells or whistles on either of them either, as expected really, but I suppose it is like when I go abroad on holiday, I tend to rent a whole villa rather than taking a cheaper package deal to the same destination overall, and staying in shared accommodation with shared facilities. Yes I am spending quite bit more for the same time away, but my overall satisfaction of the time is greater and I tend to enjoy it more.

It is all a balancing act to find what is acceptable to "you" and for some that will be a low end car, that is newer, at a higher expense for piece of mind, or even just enjoyment. :)
I do agree (and i know you see what i am saying too! :)) I'll never fully get it though, to me a car such as a Corsa is less interesting than a dishwasher. I'd view one from about 1995 as being same as a new one (Exaggeration) :p
 
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Ill check the zoe out, the designs pretty nice too.
Do u still get roughly the same amount of miles after 4 years?

A 4 year old Zoe - presuming it hasn't done stupid amounts of miles - will have pretty much the same range as it had when it was new (might be 2 or 3% less). Not something to worry about and it'll still have 4 more years of battery warranty left.

Do watch out as some older Zoe's will have a battery lease which is expensive and generally something to avoid. (Renault offered this in the early days when EV's were new to allay peoples fears that batteries wouldn't last. Since they've been so well proven they ditched the battery lease in 2019.)
 
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Do watch out as some older Zoe's will have a battery lease which is expensive and generally something to avoid. (Renault offered this in the early days when EV's were new to allay peoples fears that batteries wouldn't last. Since they've been so well proven they ditched the battery lease in 2019.

Indeed do watch, out but you can also get some good bargains this way too as RCI allow you to buy out the battery now, the price depends on the age of the car. We won a battery lease 15 plated 22kWh model with 27k miles on it, for £3150 at auction, and then paid out £2750 for the battery, so the car was less than £6k all in, IMO a decent bargain, yes it was no frills and white but, the person who it was for was over the moon. :)
 
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Indeed do watch, out but you can also get some good bargains this way too as RCI allow you to buy out the battery now, the price depends on the age of the car. We won a battery lease 15 plated 22kWh model with 27k miles on it, for £3150 at auction, and then paid out £2750 for the battery, so the car was less than £6k all in, IMO a decent bargain, yes it was no frills and white but, the person who it was for was over the moon. :)
wow that a bargain! I honestly ain't too bothered about all the bells and whistles, as long as it has a built in sat nav I'm more than happy :)
 
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wow that a bargain! I honestly ain't too bothered about all the bells and whistles, as long as it has a built in sat nav I'm more than happy :)

Yeah it was, lucky I have family who work in the motor trade. However if you don't you should seriously speak to Johnathan Porterfield at Eco Cars - https://eco-cars.net/aboutecocars.php he is an EV specialist and will source, bid, win and deliver a car to you for a modest fee (£360 ish)
 
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Warning: so sorry for the off topic, but seeing as this isnt about an electric..

Always curious about cheap leases on a thing like a (ICE, i'll leave electric out as this is early days with an unproven used market) Corsa. Genuinely i dont understand why people buy or lease new ones if the aim is clearly just to drive around in a cheap as possible car. Any number of almost identical cars which cost buttons to run can simply be bought outright for a few grand and run for years and years until they die. Of course it is rather good that everyone does not have the same mindset as me, or we would end up in stalemate :D

Warning: so sorry for the off topic, but seeing as this isnt about an electric..

Always curious about cheap leases on a thing like a (ICE, i'll leave electric out as this is early days with an unproven used market) Corsa. Genuinely i dont understand why people buy or lease new ones if the aim is clearly just to drive around in a cheap as possible car. Any number of almost identical cars which cost buttons to run can simply be bought outright for a few grand and run for years and years until they die. Of course it is rather good that everyone does not have the same mindset as me, or we would end up in stalemate :D

I didn't have a specific car in mind just the Corsa was the best spec car for around £140pm, Christ a Darcia Sandero costs more. While the Corsa may not be fun to drive (neither was my Clio) it does have all the modern stuff I wanted like parking sensors, rear camera, climate control, sat nav, etc. Its not the base Corsa like the used cars I could buy for 4k so I'm happy to maybe pay £1k more over 2 year period for some creature comforts. Leasing is not for everyone I know but right now its suits me to lease.

Just wish my brother in law would have mention using his charging port as I probably would have gone electric as there was some very decent lease deals a week ago. I didn't know but he said his charging station has different profiles so i could have just use it and it would say how much it cost each charge, would make paying for using it very easy.
 
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I have a cheap lease on an Ioniq and doing nearly 70 miles a day have only plugged it into a fast charger once, it just goes on the 3 pin at home overnight. Obviously if you haven't got off road parking then it's not much use but don't feel like you have to have a charging point to run an electric car.
 
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