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When will people learn to drive manuals!!

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Zip, 30 Jan 2006.

  1. Zip

    Capodecina

    Joined: 26 Jun 2005

    Posts: 20,224

    Location: Australia

    Ive been looking for a car for awhile now and every time i find one its always an automatic :mad:
    Its feels like 99% of the car market are autos these days unless the cars are heaps of ****.
    TBH Autos should never have been invented, i find they take longer to stop, take longer to speed up, people have more tendencys to drive with 2 feet, if ** foot slips of the brake u will take off and into the back of another car when in a manual u are either in nutrual or the hand brake is on so u cant go anywhere.
    I wish autos got band from the road. Im sick of them :mad:
     
  2. Phantom

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

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    Location: Southampton, Hampshire

    banned.


    what car are you looking for? tried autotrader?
     
  3. Jez

    Caporegime

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    He is in australia, i get the impression automatic's are more common over there than here if he cannot find any good manuals :)
     
  4. [TW]Fox

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

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    Sounds to me like you are trying to buy a car of the type that the market prefers in automatic form, probably a large executive saloon with a powerful engine or similar?

    A decent autobox mated to a properly sized engine provides brisk performance, and to suggest they take longer to stop is utterly ridiculous, as is the claim it makes you more likely to tailgate.

    Have you any experience of a proper automatic or did you once drive a Corsa auto, thought it sucked, and assumed all auto's are the same?

    What are you trying to buy?
     
  5. Zip

    Capodecina

    Joined: 26 Jun 2005

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    Location: Australia

    Ive tryed a fair few autos and they dont suit my driving style. What i mean it takes longer to stop is i like to engine brake a lot and wih autos u cant do that propperly :(

    Im looking for some a BMW a Subaru or something sporty but comfortable. BMWs are usally bought by the rich gits that dont have time to change gears but you would expect some of these cars to be manual.
    Every time i find something on the market that i like and is in my price range and a good deal it turns out to be an auto :mad:

    EDIT: i live in a hilly area aswell and autos just love that :rolleyes:
     
  6. Clarkey

    Capodecina

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    sounds like you have the trademark irrational hatred of auto's, they are great, accept it ;)
     
  7. Ukadder

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 3 Aug 2004

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    Location: Essex

    You use the clutch/gear change to slow down then, not a brilliant way to drive a car it will end up costing for a new clutch! :p

    Autos are fine for hilly areas (they are a lot better in some respects! Hill starts rule as does sitting in a traffic jam on a hill! (yes I do drive one, yes I did own a manual before)) In my opinion the only thing bad about autos is the slight loss of power compared to manuals. I know some people don't like autos, but I also know that 95% of these people have never actually driven an auto for any kind of time, I to didn’t like the idea of an auto but after owning one for a month I really do love them!

    Try looking on auto trader for a manual BMW, there are a fair few about I would say a 60/40 split between autos and manuals, this does depend what type of BMW you want mind. What about a tiptronic?
     
  8. Ring Peace

    Gangster

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    Erm I suggest you try an Audi DSG
     
  9. Zip

    Capodecina

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    I dont mind tiptronic but they would be out of my price range.
    Could someone also tell me what steptronic is? i only heard of it about 2 days ago.
     
  10. Morba

    Caporegime

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    same thing basically.

    also, dont discount autos, they are more than capable, especially the bmw's :]

    UkAdder - look at his location, i doubt autotrader will help him here ;]
     
  11. geiger

    Mobster

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    Location: Garrison, New Jersey


    I tend to do this since it leaves the car more balanced then standing on the brakes, you can always do that in addition of course. I think being in a right gear is good driving and it helps alot on fast corners but you probably right about it costing more in the end.


    Never driven an auto and never want to, for city traffic I expect they are better though I avoid that kind of mindless driving if I can anyway.
    I heard autos work great on snow
     
  12. Clarkey

    Capodecina

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    it might be good, but it isnt an auto. Tiptronic, steptronic and all that balls is just an auto with which you can override the gear selection, they are poor at best tbh.
     
  13. Morba

    Caporegime

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    in what context?
    as for 99% of driving your statement is rubbish :]
     
  14. Clarkey

    Capodecina

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    in the context that they result in laggy changes and the majority of them will shift up if you hold it on the limiter, eliminating the whole 'manual' aspect of it.

    As for my ststement being rubbish, thanks, added to ignore list...
     
  15. Mic

    Mobster

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    Since when is there an ignore list?
     
  16. Clarkey

    Capodecina

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    since always
     
  17. zain

    Mobster

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    I did my test in manual but got an auto/manual car. Reason is that you start and stop so much in busy traffic so often I cba changing, so dont insult the auto!!!! :(
     
  18. Memphis

    Capodecina

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    Location: Inverness


    And I'm sure he really cares ;).
     
  19. Morba

    Caporegime

    Joined: 7 Mar 2003

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    Location: Krispy Kreme drive thru

    in the 3 steptronics ive driven none have stepped up a gear in semi mode unless i have told it to.
    laggy changes? never noticed it unless i was ragging it and then it makes sense that it would wait till its in a mechanically safe position to do so.
    why buy an auto if you want a car that your going to rag on the limiter anyway?

    the only time it really makes a difference is if your racing etc, which is the 1% of driving, making my claim of your statement being rubbish valid :]
     
  20. Malt_Vinegar

    Don

    Joined: 20 Oct 2002

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    Even my 1992 5 series has a sports mode, and an ability to hold it in gears if required.

    I have been known to hit the red-line on occaision :p