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Which 5850 ? PowerColor's PCS+ or Asus DirectCU

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by KillBoY_UK, 12 May 2010.

  1. KillBoY_UK

    Mobster

    Joined: 20 Apr 2004

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    Location: Oxford

    I want to order one of these today. I can get the PCS+ for £233 with MW2 , MW2 which I already have so I could sell that for £20 or so knocking the price down to a nice £213.

    The Direct CU I'm looking at £245 but comes with no games i think.

    They both seem to OC about the same and both are quiet (replacing my faulty GTX 280) with the PCS+ being much larger but that is a non issue in my Aurora 570. which leaves RMA's and warranty what are Asus (3 years) and Powercolor (2 years) like on RMA's (time taken , were i have to send to card to etc.


    So I need some help as I'm torn between the two and I rather not get a stock card.
     
  2. RavenXXX2

    Capodecina

    Joined: 6 Oct 2007

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    Location: North West

    I would go Asus, better quality PCB and by all accounts a better clocker with eight and six pin power connectors for stability when overclocking.
     
  3. KillBoY_UK

    Mobster

    Joined: 20 Apr 2004

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    Location: Oxford

    but what are the RMA's like. If Asus has a UK based graphics card RMA that will be a real deal breaker with its 3years warranty. Never had to do a RMA with ether company you see (although I've plenty of each products).
     
  4. cobhc

    Gangster

    Joined: 11 May 2010

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    Location: Nottingham

    I can say that my Asus isn't a great overclocker, I struggle to stably hit 950 on the core and 1250 on the memory, even with 1.35v. I'm looking at getting it RMA'd too (with the supplier) as there is a ticking noise coming from the fan. I think I might move to a reference design card though as I've heard they clock better and run cooler.

    Just my 2 cents though, you might get a better card than myself.
     
  5. KillBoY_UK

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    Location: Oxford

    I be happy with 925/1200 sort of level as i would get very close to 5870 performance in a smaller neater card. and it would punch my faulty GTX 280 OC in the nuts some what
     
  6. RavenXXX2

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  7. cobhc

    Gangster

    Joined: 11 May 2010

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    Location: Nottingham

    I can do 900/1230 at 1.2v with the card maxing out at late 80's under Furmark. 3DMark Vantage hits mid 70's, and the GPU score comes in very close to the 5870 score on Guru3D's charts.

    Edit:- Raven, that's the TOP Edition, which I'm assuming is binned higher and will most likely be a better clocker in general than the normal versions.
     
  8. up2nogooduk

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 13 Feb 2009

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    Location: London

    Asus DirectCU is an exellent card. i use it..
    there is 2 versions thou. this and the TOP Edition. maybe the TOP Edition clocks little better, not sure.
     
  9. cobhc

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    Location: Nottingham

    Sorry to hijack the thread, but what kind of overclocks and temperatures do you see up2nogooduk? As I'm thinking my noisy fan on mine might be affecting my overclocks and temperatures too.
     
  10. RavenXXX2

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    Yeah didn't realize that :o still I would go Asus for the quality cooler and PCB.
     
  11. 555BUK

    Mobster

    Joined: 10 Feb 2007

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    I have owned 2 ASUS 5850's and one ASUS 5870. All 3 overclocked to 1000MHz core easily with voltages bumped to ~1.3v. The best 5850 can run 1050core / 1300mem and the worst did 1000core / 1250mem. The 5870 sat in the middle @ 1000/1300.

    Without voltage tweaks they would only go to ~870core which will be your limit with PCS version.
     
  12. RynceWynd

    Gangster

    Joined: 26 Mar 2009

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    Location: Alsager

    i've got the PCS+ and the best i can get out of it 100% stable is 850/1150, runs cool at 66 max.

    very quiet card as well, no voltage tweek on the powercolor (at least not on mine anyway)
     
  13. fs123

    Mobster

    Joined: 4 Feb 2006

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    What about the reference Asus card? Is the DirectCU better than that?
     
  14. mame

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 16 Jul 2007

    Posts: 7,689

    Location: Stoke on Trent

    I think there's an ASUS rep. who posts on here?