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Which sub/amp kit?

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Reality Bites, 18 Jan 2006.

  1. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    Been out of the ICE scene for sometime now due to company cars. Not bought my own car yet but thought i'd get the audio in now! :D

    Was a big pioneer fan, but don't like the look of the new one's and none come close to my old P99R (god i miss that HU)

    Seen an alpine MP3/CD HU i like which will do (either the CDA-9812RB or the CDA-9855R )

    going to stick with stock speakers for now (focus ones seem ok for now) but want a sub/amp kit.

    I've always liked the alpine kits, but am interested in any comparisons? I've looked at the 10" Type R's and the digital pack here.

    http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/1027.html

    any views?
     
  2. Scrutinize

    Soldato

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    Best bet is find a local ICE shop to try some. Very little point in recommending anything as most people have different tastes and appreciation for sound.

    Me I wouldn't go for anything other some Diamond/Genesis/Boston Acousics/l gear. After many years of installs and many thousands spent, to me these sound the best.

    However the Alpine Type-R gear gives a very nice sound but just make sure you get a 12" sub kit over the 10".

    However
     
  3. Vanilla

    Sgarrista

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    awww c'mon, at least just spent ~£130 and swap out the stock speakers! Front's are the most important things in any system!

    What's your budget for the sub / amp? Who is fitting it?

    Sub and amp you chose is a good compbo, I like those subs.
     
  4. Morba

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    do you care about losing space in the boot?
    if not, how abotu a dual 12" vibe box/subs and a separate amp?
     
  5. Vanilla

    Sgarrista

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    Yup, good advice - listen to what you like but don't buy! They will just try to sell you what they stock. I've seen shops try and sell me utter crap brands, passing it off as the best thing ever - all because they get the best margin on it.
     
  6. Morba

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    remember that what you hear in a shop isnt what you will hear in your car ;]
     
  7. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    yeah, guess you're right.

    I know that if i stick some comps in the front, i'm going to want to put a 4 channel amp in the boot. I'm not one for wanting budget kit and would want the best. last lot of kit cost me £2000 without a sub! :eek:

    considered putting some decent coax's in the front and running them off the HU.

    Budget for the HU and SUB/AMP would be no more than £600.

    HU is either £200 or £280 and the sub kit is £280 also.

    would probably add comps later though
     
  8. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    why the 12"? i'm not a massive bass head, just like a nice note to fill out the bottom end.

    Always thought the 10" was more punchy, yet gave a good weight to the low end too?
     
  9. Scrutinize

    Soldato

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    Not suggested for a bass head, reason being a single 12 give a much better overall bass fill sound in car (not in showroom) specially in the Type-R gear. Also depends on your car but certainly in a decently made car with some solid panels and soundproofing (not a old escort or 106 etc) you need it for the sound to travel.

    With a Type-R, you still get punchy bass but it depends how you set up the amp. The alpine monoblocks are pretty good for that.
     
  10. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    cool, thanks for the advise. Not heard the Digital Type-R's but i know the other's are pretty good.

    Been looking at a focus....nothing special, just waiting for the ST prices to come down. Thought the 10" may be enough for that size of car.
     
  11. Fusion

    Capodecina

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    A decent 10" model, amped correctly, is all most people will ever need.
     
  12. Morba

    Caporegime

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    the focus boot fits plenty more than just a 10" ;]
    rhys (local boy) had a mental system - 2 x 15" iirc and some crazy sized amps from USA! hes refitting it atm.

    if your thinking about focus audio, then head over to ffoc.co.uk, plenty of people in the know about what sounds good in the focus :]
     
  13. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    i know i can get more than a 10" in there, but i want the boot space too.

    been on the ffoc.co.uk forums today.....great site.
     
  14. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    OK.....am swaying towards a 10" sub as space is important to me and i'm sure the 10 will give me the bass i want.

    Have picked out a couple of comp sets i'm going to listen to around the 75WRMS range. Would i be better getting 2 amps (1 mono block and a 2 channel) or a 4 channel amp, bridging the 2 channels for the sub and using the other 2 for the comps?

    Been out of this a while and am struggling to find the correct path to take.
     
  15. Vanilla

    Sgarrista

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    Single amp will do.
     
  16. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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  17. Vanilla

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    Yeah looks good, meaty amp. Although if you're looking at spending that kind of cash also consider the Genesis Profile Four Ultra which is a little bit more but sooo good.
     
  18. Scrutinize

    Soldato

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    If you go for the T-ype R sub you ideally need a monoblock as they are hungry (RMS) beasts + you will be able to get a better bass sound due to the filters and functions. A 4 channel would not give enough power to the sub bridged unless you go for some real £££ stuff.

    I will probably get flamed for this, but you may find that depending on your speaker choice you can run them of the HU. Certainly if you go for an Alpine (decent spec) or pioneer (with the 4x50 upwards mossfett amp) headunit they will run speakers fairly well. You will also find the sound quality of these HU amps is better than some loud and cheap 2/4ch amps.

    I have run Boston Accoustics, focal, JL Audio and Diamond comps off a HU before with no probs. You don't get the full potential of the speakers & sound but if you have a 4 speaker set up + sub you will have pleanty of volume and audio quality. I would favour Pioneer over the Apline HU amps but that is my personal taste.

    If you sort the Sub and Amp first you can worry about tuning the whole sound later. Get a 2ch amp for your speakers separately to get the most out of the sound.

    Have you checked what will go into your car speaker wise.
     
  19. Reality Bites

    Soldato

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    i've read on the FFOC.co.uk site that i can get 16.5cm comps in the front. I was tempted to go for the 10" sub set which i listed in the original post and then just run the comps from the HU. The alpine HU has 60Wx4 amp built in so plenty there.

    I must admit i do prefer pioneer HU's but since i sold my old P99R i've not seen any which come close to it. I've seen the Alpine and heard it so know it sounds retty good.

    I've heard lots of good things about the type-r comps too....

    http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/3522.html

    will have a listen before buying though
     
  20. needmorespeed

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