GPU advice/help

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 14:06

Ordered most of my parts from OC.uk

Got the lian li mesh 2, all black
Corsair RM850 modular PSU
MSI x570 Tomahawk Mobo
WD sn550 1tb NVme M.2
Mugen Fuma 2 cooler

As well as a few other things. Need to buy my ram and will probably go for 3200mhz ram. Do people think I should go for 32gb (4x8) or stick with 16gb @ 3600mhz and add more later?

Onto my question, I am lost with the GPU. I will be getting the Ryzen 3 3300x Which I will use for a year or 2, then update to a gen 4 when needed.

As for the GPU I have no idea. I have a £200 to £220 budget. I don't play games but might try a few at some point. However I will be giving this to my daughter at some point and she likes to play games an will want to stream as a hobby.

Been looking at the following

Sapphire RX 5500 xt 8gb
MSI NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS 6gb GDDR6
MSI Radeon RX 5500 XT MECH 8G OC GDDR6

To be honest I am lost and dont have a clue. Any help and advice would be welcome.

Ryan5Zulu · 18 Sep 2020 at 14:26

Would you be open to buying a 2nd hand GPU?

mickyflinn · 18 Sep 2020 at 14:34

32gb teamgroup 3200mhz of ram can be had for £100 and Some what future proofs.

2 x 16gb should be used rather than 4x8gb.

The 1660 super is about 20% faster than the 5500xt for 1080p gaming.

lee32uk · 18 Sep 2020 at 14:39

sinkorswim said:
Ordered most of my parts from OC.uk

Got the lian li mesh 2, all black
Corsair RM850 modular PSU
MSI x570 Tomahawk Mobo
WD sn550 1tb NVme M.2
Mugen Fuma 2 cooler

As well as a few other things. Need to buy my ram and will probably go for 3200mhz ram. Do people think I should go for 32gb (4x8) or stick with 16gb @ 3600mhz and add more later?

Onto my question, I am lost with the GPU. I will be getting the Ryzen 3 3300x Which I will use for a year or 2, then update to a gen 4 when needed.

As for the GPU I have no idea. I have a £200 to £220 budget. I don't play games but might try a few at some point. However I will be giving this to my daughter at some point and she likes to play games an will want to stream as a hobby.

Been looking at the following

Sapphire RX 5500 xt 8gb
MSI NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER VENTUS XS 6gb GDDR6
MSI Radeon RX 5500 XT MECH 8G OC GDDR6

To be honest I am lost and dont have a clue. Any help and advice would be welcome.

Too late to cancel/amend the order ? You could easily save money on the board with something like the MSI B550-A PRO.

An 850W psu is way more than you need if you are not buying a high end gpu. A 550W would easily be enough for a gpu like the 1660 Super. Not a fan of the 5500XT.

Those savings would give you a bit more wiggle room to buy a gpu.

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:01

Ryan5Zulu said:
Would you be open to buying a 2nd hand GPU?

Not sure as I am wary of second hand, no guarantee and I am very new to all this. I could be open to this if original receipt and boxing was there.

mickyflinn said:
32gb teamgroup 3200mhz of ram can be had for £100 and Some what future proofs.

2 x 16gb should be used rather than 4x8gb.

The 1660 super is about 20% faster than the 5500xt for 1080p gaming.

OK thanks I have been looking at that ram and going that route

lee32uk said:
Too late to cancel/amend the order ? You could easily save money on the board with something like the MSI B550-A PRO.

An 850W psu is way more than you need if you are not buying a high end gpu. A 550W would easily be enough for a gpu like the 1660 Super. Not a fan of the 5500XT.

Those savings would give you a bit more wiggle room to buy a gpu.

I have went higher on the (edit PSU) as the cost is not that much more and will last for many years. Would people recommend the 1660 6gb with GDDR6 over the RX5500? That is what I have been looking at the MSI Nvida 1660 super ventus. I was originally looking at the MSI B550 but |I have already placed the order. Not sure if it can be amended. Would that also be futureproof and accommodate the gen 4 processors?

Ryan5Zulu · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:09

sinkorswim said:
Not sure as I am wary of second hand, no guarantee and I am very new to all this. I could be open to this if original receipt and boxing was there.

I hear you. You may also want to steer clear of GPUs used for mining. I reckon you should be safe buying a GPU around 12-18 months old with a box and receipt. You should be able to pick up some good deals on 20-series cards as gamers gear up for 30-series.

OK thanks I have been looking at that ram and going that route

I have went higher on the GPU as the cost is not that much more and will last for many years. Would people recommend the 1660 6gb with GDDR6 over the RX5500? That is what I have been looking at the MSI Nvida 1660 super ventus. I was originally looking at the MSI B550 but |I have already placed the order. Not sure if it can be amended. Would that also be futureproof and accommodate the gen 4 processors?

lee32uk · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:26

sinkorswim said:
I have went higher on the GPU as the cost is not that much more and will last for many years. Would people recommend the 1660 6gb with GDDR6 over the RX5500? That is what I have been looking at the MSI Nvida 1660 super ventus. I was originally looking at the MSI B550 but |I have already placed the order. Not sure if it can be amended. Would that also be futureproof and accommodate the gen 4 processors?

This Hardware Unboxed review compares the 5500XT against the 1650 Super and 1660 Super, so you can get an idea of 1080p performance.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1958-amd-radeon-rx-5500-xt/

The B550 boards will support Ryzen 4000 when they release. You will just need a bios update, but that would also apply to X570.

dfour · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:29

Added the ram, changed the psu and motherboard. The cooler you listed is out of stock and the case isnt available foe a week or more. You may be able to cancel the whole order and start again as some of the things you listed arent available atm.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £99.95
1 x Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black= £74.99
1 x WD Blue SN550 500GB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0C)= £69.95
1 x Scythe SCMG-5100 Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Cooler= £42.95
1 x Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £89.99
1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £159.95

Total: £553.68 (includes shipping: £15.90)

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:40

lee32uk said:
This Hardware Unboxed review compares the 5500XT against the 1650 Super and 1660 Super, so you can get an idea of 1080p performance.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1958-amd-radeon-rx-5500-xt/

The B550 boards will support Ryzen 4000 when they release. You will just need a bios update, but that would also apply to X570.

Thanks will check it out now.

Edit, checked through and it looks like the GTX Nvida 1660 super is the way to go?

dfour said:
Added the ram, changed the psu and motherboard. The cooler you listed is out of stock and the case isnt available foe a week or more. You may be able to cancel the whole order and start again as some of the things you listed arent available atm.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey= £99.95

1 x Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black= £74.99

1 x WD Blue SN550 500GB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS500G2B0C)= £69.95

1 x Scythe SCMG-5100 Mugen 5 Rev.B CPU Cooler= £42.95

1 x Super Flower Leadex III 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - Black= £89.99

1 x MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £159.95

Total: £553.68 (includes shipping: £15.90)

Will look at the ram, guy taking my order recommended the 1TB drive as I can load up a lot of stuff I use frequently will space to spare. I don't mind waiting for all the stuff as I have a PC to use until everything is in stock

I have been looking at the B550 tomahawk but I would need to add Bluetooth and it does not have many connection ports on the back for peripheral's, so for the extra £35 (after buying a Bluetooth adapter) I might as well stick with the X570. Not sure if I could change now anyway and would need Bluetooth. Will check out the ram. Thanks

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:53

Would there be a big difference between getting a 1660 super with GDDR5?

lee32uk · 18 Sep 2020 at 15:57

sinkorswim said:
Thanks will check it out now.

Edit, checked through and it looks like the GTX Nvida 1660 super is the way to go?

Will look at the ram, guy taking my order recommended the 1TB drive as I can load up a lot of stuff I use frequently will space to spare. I don't mind waiting for all the stuff as I have a PC to use until everything is in stock

I have been looking at the B550 tomahawk but I would need to add Bluetooth and it does not have many connection ports on the back for peripheral's, so for the extra £35 (after buying a Bluetooth adapter) I might as well stick with the X570. Not sure if I could change now anyway and would need Bluetooth. Will check out the ram. Thanks

Both of these boards support Bluetooth 5.1

The Micro ATX Mortar would still work fine in an ATX case.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI MAG B550M Mortar WiFi (AMD AM4) B550 Micro-ATX Motherboard= £149.99
1 x MSI MPG B550 Gaming Edge WiFi (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £169.99

Total: £330.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)

lee32uk · 18 Sep 2020 at 16:00

sinkorswim said:
Would there be a big difference between getting a 1660 super with GDDR5?

Pretty sure all the 1660 Super cards are GDDR6.

dfour · 18 Sep 2020 at 16:05

My bad missed it was a 1tb drive.

What about this one as it has 7 usb on the back and supports bluetooth?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI MPG B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £189.95

Total: £200.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 16:29

dfour said:
My bad missed it was a 1tb drive.

What about this one as it has 7 usb on the back and supports bluetooth?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x MSI MPG B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £189.95

Total: £200.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

That board looks great and £30 cheaper, do you know if it has an internal front type c connector as I will be fitting that to my case? Will call up OC now and that will give me extra towards my GPU. Thanks

dfour · 18 Sep 2020 at 16:36

sinkorswim said:
That board looks great and £20 cheaper, do you know if it has a front typc c connector as I will be fitting that to my case?

Going by this:

3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps ports (1 Type-C internal connector, and 2 ports are available through the internal USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps connector)

I would assume so.

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 16:42

dfour said:
Going by this:

3x USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps ports (1 Type-C internal connector, and 2 ports are available through the internal USB 3.2 Gen 1 5Gbps connector)

I would assume so.

Just about to call now and se if I can change my order. Thanks

sinkorswim · 18 Sep 2020 at 17:45

lee32uk said:
Pretty sure all the 1660 Super cards are GDDR6.

You can get them with GDDR5 but noticed it is only £10 cheaper so will go for the 1660 super 6GB with GDDR6 ram

sinkorswim said:
That board looks great and £30 cheaper, do you know if it has an internal front type c connector as I will be fitting that to my case? Will call up OC now and that will give me extra towards my GPU. Thanks

Thanks for the advice, changed my order and also lowered the PSU to the RM750. Saved £44.05 so will add that to my CPU or GPU. Thanks again